Excerpts from White House Briefing, December 17, 2001

Questions & Answers with Ari Fleisher - Topic: Military Tribunals

Q: And there's one other thing that has happened in the past couple of days. The Pentagon is now confirming that members of the al Qaeda are in the custody of the United States military. Under the executive order that the President signed, he, alone, will make the decision as to who would stand trial before a military tribunal.
What's the process? What's the public record that would or would not be laid down for the President, himself, making that decision?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I think the case of Mr. Moussaoui is indicative of the process, in a matter where there is somebody who may be a likely candidate for a military tribunal. The President will listen to the advice of his advisors. The President will meet as necessary with the Attorney General or others who are involved. And the criteria the President laid down are that he would consider the option of a military tribunal if such a trial would help protect the national security interests of the country, with a particular eye on protecting sources are methods that are used to gather intelligence in the conduct of the war.
That was not the case with Mr. Moussaoui and the trial will proceed through the normal civilian courts.

Q: And will there be any finding, any kind of public record of how he reaches such a decision?

MR. FLEISCHER: Just like I did there, just as I did immediately on the day that General Ashcroft announced that the trial of Mr. Moussaoui would proceed and you received the indictment of Mr. Moussaoui, we'll answer all the questions we can.

Q: Is that the process he's going to follow in considering John Walker Lindh. And do you have any more information --

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, Mr. Walker, there's no consideration of a military tribunal. The military tribunals are exclusively for non-citizens of this country; Mr. Walker is a citizen.

Q: But will the President make the ultimate decision on his legal process?

MR. FLEISCHER: I don't believe -- it's really not the same. In the case of a military tribunal, that is reserved for the President, alone, to make the judgment about whether somebody should be tried in a military court or not. There is a series of procedures that are different from that in civilian matters.

With Mr. Walker, the government is still ascertaining what the facts are involved; the Department of Defense and others are still inquiring to determine exactly what happened to Mr. Walker, how he came to be a Taliban; what activities he factually engaged in as a member of the Taliban. All that are the relevant facts that need to be gathered, and those facts are still being assessed.

Q: And are you getting information that he may have been more actively involved in the Taliban, or al Qaeda, than previously thought? And will he be allowed to see a lawyer any time soon?

MR. FLEISCHER: You need to ask those questions to the Department of Defense or the Attorney General. And the facts are still being gathered